Episode 207

EP207: Lysha Holmes, Susanna Gray-Jones & Callum McPhilbin - Rec2Rec Special!

Published on: 9th January, 2024

This week is an extra special episode as we welcome two guests for an extra long episode - and believe the first rec-to-rec collaboration on a podcast. 

Susanna Gray-Jones worked within education recruitment for 13 years, before starting her own rec2rec recruitment business during covid - Chime Search. Founder of Chime Search FZCO. She’s also the host of her own podcast, The Counter Offer

Callum McPhilbin, was a teacher for around four years before leaping into the world of recruitment, he's also a host of his own podcast, Humble Billings. 

In this episode, they cover a plethora of topics, really lifting the lid on the recruitment industry and revealing the secrets of the R2R world....

They cover:

  • Their journey to recruitment 
  • Their advice on focusing on a vertical market 
  • Which markets we should be focusing on in 2024 
  • Advice to trainees looking to start their career in recruitment
  • What behaviours we should be looking for when hiring recruiters 
  • What have they learnt from their podcast guests
  • Advice on changing sectors within recruitment 
  • Is R2R the hardest rec job of all? 

Connect with them here

https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannagray-jones/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/callum-mcphilbin-bba32a235/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi and Inclusion Crowd.

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=recruiters-recruiter

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Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Inclusion Crowd works with organisations to create a credible and authentic DEI programme, they help clients attract & retain talent - as well as improve culture & engagement. Their vision is to make organisations reflective of the societies in which they operate. Find out more here https://inclusioncrowd.biz/

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About the Podcast

The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast
The podcast destination for all levels of recruiters seeking inspiration to become the best in class.
Welcome to The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast!

The Recruiters Recruitment Podcast is listened to from all corners of the globe.
Created in the global lockdown of 2020, Our audience drop in knowing that they are going to listen to a guest who is a knowledgable leader in their industry willingly sharing their professional and often personal journeys to enable YOU, our precious listener, a chance to learn, self-development and above all else, reflect on your own life and experience. A safe place to spend half an hour where we hope to allow you to learn something.

Our host - Lysha Holmes has been in the recruitment industry for almost a quarter of a century and for most of that duration, has championed best practise in the Rec2Rec sphere (placing recruiters themselves). A vocal advocate for well-being, Lysha talks openly about sobriety, and her life as a solo parent all whilst running a recruitment business.

Here we are now in 2023- with Season 3 which will focus on the holistic approach to leadership with more experts and inspiring voices from across the recruitment industry and beyond, sharing their experiences with you- our cherished listener!

The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is for those who are aspiring future leaders, those who want to improve themselves on their recruitment journey and also those who are running companies now to learn from their peers. So we LOVE to hear from you, drop us a DM so we know what you have learned.

Above all else, we hope you find The Recruiters Recruitment Podcast to be a positive inspiring place to be.

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This podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and a partner to Needi, Diversity in Recruitment, and Keybridge IT.

Our Sponsor:
Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=recruiters-recruiter


Needi; Is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses.
Lou’s team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service. From thank-you gifts for small start-ups to well-being events for FTSE 100 companies, Needi helps companies motivate and retain the best staff and clients, through thoughtful, affordable gifting, events and experience days.

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed and delivered by experienced recruiters, giving your teams the insight, tools, and confidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions; Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers.
Established in 2010, Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider.
Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.
They work in many industries, including Recruitment, Finance, Leisure and the Charity Sector.

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